To Count or Not to Count

Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss whether counting worship attendance still makes sense, based on an article from Sam Rainer. Healthy reasons to count:
  • Rhythms build discipleship.
  • Presence enables connection.
  • Trends reveal direction.
  • Opportunities increase.
Unhealthy reasons to count:
  • Legalism creeps in.
  • Growth becomes a game.
  • Charisma overshadows calling.
  • Quantity replaces quality.
Resources Related to This Episode: “Does Counting Worship Attendance Still Make Sense for Churches?” by Sam Rainer
00:00 / 00:00

Related Podcasts

5 Steps to Shepherd Disgruntled People (from “Land Ho!”)

How should pastors respond when people become unhappy or leave the church? Drawing from Walker Armstrong and Mark Hallock's "Land Ho!", the Revitalize and Replant...

Six Marks That a Church and Its Leaders Are Ready for Renewal

Before meaningful church renewal can happen, certain spiritual foundations must be present. Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst discuss six biblical marks that indicate...

5 Principles for Leading as a Shepherd (From “Land Ho!”)

Join Mark Clifton, Mark Hallock, and Dan Hurst as they discuss five principles from Walker Armstrong and Mark Hallock’s Land Ho: Seven Keys to Navigating...

The 5 Arenas of Church Renewal Every Pastor Needs to Understand

Church revitalization isn't simply about launching a new program or implementing a fresh strategy. Healthy church renewal begins much deeper. In this episode of Revitalize...

A Q&A with Mark Hallock: Pastoral Leadership, Preaching, and Caring for Your Church

In our second Q&A episode of this Revitalize and Replant mini-series, host Mark Clifton turns the tables and asks Mark Hallock a few listener-submitted questions...

4 Reasons Dying Churches Should Have Hope

It can be very easy for dying churches to lose hope. Everywhere you look, you may only see what your church can’t do. In this...

3 Things Every Revitalizing Pastor Must Do

You must know yourself. You must know your church. You must know your community.

4 Reasons Why Small is the New Large

1. God always does some of his best work in small things. 2. We live in a culture that values smaller things. 3. We’ve lost...

4 Steps to Take When Your Family Isn’t Happy at Church

1. Don’t undersell the reality of the church. 2. Listen to them. 3. Pray for them and with them. 4. Find ways to involve your...

4 Symptoms of a Declining Church

1. They make decisions based on keeping the people they have. 2. They numb the pain of decline with an over-abundance of activities. 3. They...

4 Symptoms of a Revitalizing Church

1. They have moved past the past. 2. They expand the scorecard. 3. They deal with toxins in the church. 4. They stop looking for...

5 Things You Can Do to Immediately Improve Your Building

1. Deal with the outside look. 2. Deal with restrooms and children’s area 3. Address audio and video 4. Consider the imaging your church is...